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	<title>Comments on: Wi-Fi Play: Dojo Update #82</title>
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		<title>By: *D*</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-93133</link>
		<dc:creator>*D*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how cute you have faith.

the decisions dont make sense at all, they are just trying to be a parent for everyone and we don&#039;t need that.

yes there is plenty of crap out there to play and that is what most people are doing.
the only thing good that has come out of the wii is zelda and metroid, the rest is crap and nintendo knows that. that is why they are releasing their biggest franchises this year.

we were just expecting better things from the online part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how cute you have faith.</p>
<p>the decisions dont make sense at all, they are just trying to be a parent for everyone and we don&#8217;t need that.</p>
<p>yes there is plenty of crap out there to play and that is what most people are doing.<br />
the only thing good that has come out of the wii is zelda and metroid, the rest is crap and nintendo knows that. that is why they are releasing their biggest franchises this year.</p>
<p>we were just expecting better things from the online part.</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-93027</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have faith in Nintendo, if you think about the decisions they are making, they make sense. If you think they have &#039;left the hardcore crowd&#039; then go play something else that you think is &#039;hardcore&#039; and stop whining. There is plenty of crap out there for everyone to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have faith in Nintendo, if you think about the decisions they are making, they make sense. If you think they have &#8216;left the hardcore crowd&#8217; then go play something else that you think is &#8216;hardcore&#8217; and stop whining. There is plenty of crap out there for everyone to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Hologram</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-93015</link>
		<dc:creator>Hologram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@*D*:
I still don&#039;t see where the heck people are getting &quot;long loading times&quot; from. Yes, there is a minigame and a 95 second timer on that screen but there is ALSO the fact that two players are still selecting their characters and stages. This means that if you get done picking your stuff first and someone else is indecisive, you get to play the minigame. The 95 second timer is no different than the timers in arcade fighting games where you get ten seconds or whatever to pick your character or it&#039;ll pick for you. This one is just more forgiving.

As for voice chat, yes, it would make the game better. We still have no confirmation that the game doesn&#039;t support voice chat in friends mode. Probably not but there is the chance that Nintendo could release something soon considering all the new games that will be bouncing around online.

And if talking to your friends is really that important to you, go ghetto. Boot up your computer and skype with them or use a 360 or PS3&#039;s online and talk to them over that while playing. Heck, call them up on the phone if it really matters that much. Personally, I could care less. What are you going to say? &quot;Nice hit,&quot; &quot;You cheater,&quot; &quot;Ha! Owned!,&quot; etc. All these can be used with the taunts. In FPS and Strategy games, voice chat is helpful for strategizing but that doesn&#039;t exist in a 2D fighter. And if you want to end up talking about anything not directly related to Smash, use a phone.

Finally, has anyone ever thought that one of the reasons for no voice chat may be lag? Think of all the processing power required to add your voice, send it over the airwaves, and get it on someone else&#039;s headset. That would be more than enough to add a nice chunk of lag to the game and in a fighting game like Brawl, every bit of lag hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@*D*:<br />
I still don&#8217;t see where the heck people are getting &#8220;long loading times&#8221; from. Yes, there is a minigame and a 95 second timer on that screen but there is ALSO the fact that two players are still selecting their characters and stages. This means that if you get done picking your stuff first and someone else is indecisive, you get to play the minigame. The 95 second timer is no different than the timers in arcade fighting games where you get ten seconds or whatever to pick your character or it&#8217;ll pick for you. This one is just more forgiving.</p>
<p>As for voice chat, yes, it would make the game better. We still have no confirmation that the game doesn&#8217;t support voice chat in friends mode. Probably not but there is the chance that Nintendo could release something soon considering all the new games that will be bouncing around online.</p>
<p>And if talking to your friends is really that important to you, go ghetto. Boot up your computer and skype with them or use a 360 or PS3&#8242;s online and talk to them over that while playing. Heck, call them up on the phone if it really matters that much. Personally, I could care less. What are you going to say? &#8220;Nice hit,&#8221; &#8220;You cheater,&#8221; &#8220;Ha! Owned!,&#8221; etc. All these can be used with the taunts. In FPS and Strategy games, voice chat is helpful for strategizing but that doesn&#8217;t exist in a 2D fighter. And if you want to end up talking about anything not directly related to Smash, use a phone.</p>
<p>Finally, has anyone ever thought that one of the reasons for no voice chat may be lag? Think of all the processing power required to add your voice, send it over the airwaves, and get it on someone else&#8217;s headset. That would be more than enough to add a nice chunk of lag to the game and in a fighting game like Brawl, every bit of lag hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Manu</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92938</link>
		<dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea you no what...these guys are right
ranked matches, as fun as they are on games like mario strikers charged really suck because about 25 % of the ppl u r beating  disconnect meaning that i had to deliberately play matches close just so that i cud get thru it with some points. it just isnt fun when that happens. Hopefully there will be voice chat though for ppl uve added. when i first read this update i was disappointed but after reading some of the previous comments and giving it some thought, i see nintendo is pretty much on the right track</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea you no what&#8230;these guys are right<br />
ranked matches, as fun as they are on games like mario strikers charged really suck because about 25 % of the ppl u r beating  disconnect meaning that i had to deliberately play matches close just so that i cud get thru it with some points. it just isnt fun when that happens. Hopefully there will be voice chat though for ppl uve added. when i first read this update i was disappointed but after reading some of the previous comments and giving it some thought, i see nintendo is pretty much on the right track</p>
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		<title>By: Rane</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92930</link>
		<dc:creator>Rane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really glad that there won&#039;t be a ranking system, because this way there won&#039;t be any reason for somebody to quit when their opponent gets the slightest bit ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad that there won&#8217;t be a ranking system, because this way there won&#8217;t be any reason for somebody to quit when their opponent gets the slightest bit ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: *D*</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92928</link>
		<dc:creator>*D*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed there will be  kids cursing and crying.
we record them and make fun of them on youtube.

well the truth is that nintendo left the hardcore audience, most of us will be gone by the end of next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed there will be  kids cursing and crying.<br />
we record them and make fun of them on youtube.</p>
<p>well the truth is that nintendo left the hardcore audience, most of us will be gone by the end of next year.</p>
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		<title>By: scullum2001</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92905</link>
		<dc:creator>scullum2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Hoff -- Those aren&#039;t 4 new characters.  The Pokemon trainer has already been announced with 3 Pokemon fighting for him.  Also, it was not WiiNintendo that put this out and &quot;spoiled&quot; anything.  Check out http://www.smashbros.com for all updates straight from the game&#039;s creator.  WiiNintendo is only re-posting them on their site.

About voice-chat -- I think it&#039;d be cool with friends, but I&#039;m thinking like a lot of others have said...  With it on all the time, we&#039;re probably only going to hear whiney kids complaining or cursing like crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Hoff &#8212; Those aren&#8217;t 4 new characters.  The Pokemon trainer has already been announced with 3 Pokemon fighting for him.  Also, it was not WiiNintendo that put this out and &#8220;spoiled&#8221; anything.  Check out <a href="http://www.smashbros.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.smashbros.com</a> for all updates straight from the game&#8217;s creator.  WiiNintendo is only re-posting them on their site.</p>
<p>About voice-chat &#8212; I think it&#8217;d be cool with friends, but I&#8217;m thinking like a lot of others have said&#8230;  With it on all the time, we&#8217;re probably only going to hear whiney kids complaining or cursing like crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: *D*</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92898</link>
		<dc:creator>*D*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danm i thought i was a nintendo fan, but after reading some of this comments i see some of you will go to the death for nintendo.

- no voice
i would like to speak with family or friends that live far from here while i play,so that sucks.

- long loading times 
play a game while waiting, sounds like you are going to be there for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danm i thought i was a nintendo fan, but after reading some of this comments i see some of you will go to the death for nintendo.</p>
<p>- no voice<br />
i would like to speak with family or friends that live far from here while i play,so that sucks.</p>
<p>- long loading times<br />
play a game while waiting, sounds like you are going to be there for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: brawl_fan</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92888</link>
		<dc:creator>brawl_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about the icon select?? it only shows the characters available now! does that mean that you will unlock icons when you unlock characters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about the icon select?? it only shows the characters available now! does that mean that you will unlock icons when you unlock characters?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92884</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it didnt confirm 4 new people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it didnt confirm 4 new people</p>
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		<title>By: Hoff</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92880</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO!!!

Does this not confirm 4 new characters? Ash and those pokemon. C&#039;mon people, WiFi capabilities are awesome, and THANKS for the update to tell us so, but I think you may have equally spoiled some character reveals there as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLO!!!</p>
<p>Does this not confirm 4 new characters? Ash and those pokemon. C&#8217;mon people, WiFi capabilities are awesome, and THANKS for the update to tell us so, but I think you may have equally spoiled some character reveals there as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92873</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with the last two comments (and various others) about online voice chat being a bad idea in a fighter. what could you possibly talk about? &quot;o i just owned your face!&quot; NO YOU DIDNT CHEAP SHOT&quot; &quot;YOUR A HAXOR&quot; i cant think of any way (unless there were HUGE scrolling levels) that voice chat would be that bad of a thing to leave out. One thing that I think would help is allowing you to plug in a keyboard through the USBs on the back and chat with that. Even if it was just for friend battles i think that would add something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with the last two comments (and various others) about online voice chat being a bad idea in a fighter. what could you possibly talk about? &#8220;o i just owned your face!&#8221; NO YOU DIDNT CHEAP SHOT&#8221; &#8220;YOUR A HAXOR&#8221; i cant think of any way (unless there were HUGE scrolling levels) that voice chat would be that bad of a thing to leave out. One thing that I think would help is allowing you to plug in a keyboard through the USBs on the back and chat with that. Even if it was just for friend battles i think that would add something.</p>
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		<title>By: lagisyourproblem</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92867</link>
		<dc:creator>lagisyourproblem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone has previously stated, any &#039;lag&#039; you experience is either because of your connection or the host&#039;s connection. Nintendo has nothing to do with any &#039;lag&#039; you experience. To not get this game because you think you will have &#039;lag&#039; is absolutely retarted. I guess that will be your loss though and not mine. Trust me, this could be much worse. They could have forced you to ONLY play against friends. Instead they decided to keep &#039;anonymous&#039; play available but without chat (which is a blessing). Nothing worse than hearing whiny kids when they are loosing (or winning, heheh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone has previously stated, any &#8216;lag&#8217; you experience is either because of your connection or the host&#8217;s connection. Nintendo has nothing to do with any &#8216;lag&#8217; you experience. To not get this game because you think you will have &#8216;lag&#8217; is absolutely retarted. I guess that will be your loss though and not mine. Trust me, this could be much worse. They could have forced you to ONLY play against friends. Instead they decided to keep &#8216;anonymous&#8217; play available but without chat (which is a blessing). Nothing worse than hearing whiny kids when they are loosing (or winning, heheh)</p>
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		<title>By: WiglyWorm</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92849</link>
		<dc:creator>WiglyWorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re planning a number of services that make use of Wi-Fi, but weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll reveal them gradually with the other modes. Enjoy.

I think that&#039;s the key here. Who says there won&#039;t be a tournament mode with rankings/a ladder?

Not having voice-chat with friends is a bummer, yes. However, not having any form of communication with others is a blessing. No doubt about it. Voice chat is the reason I hardly play halo 2 multiplayer anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re planning a number of services that make use of Wi-Fi, but weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll reveal them gradually with the other modes. Enjoy.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the key here. Who says there won&#8217;t be a tournament mode with rankings/a ladder?</p>
<p>Not having voice-chat with friends is a bummer, yes. However, not having any form of communication with others is a blessing. No doubt about it. Voice chat is the reason I hardly play halo 2 multiplayer anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://www.wiinintendo.net/2007/09/18/wi-fi-play-dojo-update-82/comment-page-1/#comment-92845</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good and bad. I just cannot decide. I&#039;ll rent it to see if there is lag and if how bad it is. If it&#039;s OK I&#039;ll go out and buy this game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good and bad. I just cannot decide. I&#8217;ll rent it to see if there is lag and if how bad it is. If it&#8217;s OK I&#8217;ll go out and buy this game.</p>
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